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  • Isn't it implied that in the first 3 movies Lycans retain more of their humanity in their Lycan forms?

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    • If that's true then I find the statement that Lycans lose their intelligence, and rationality that they possess in human form.

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    • More of their humanity compared to what? They're certainly closer to human than the werewolves.

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    • Yellowantphil wrote: More of their humanity compared to what? They're certainly closer to human than the werewolves.

      True but I interpret the fact that Lucian was able to retrieve Sonja's pendant in Lycan form Darius shielding his brothers with his body as evidence of them being more than just bloodlusting monsters. With those examples I just cannot believe that they are unintelligent, irrational beasts.

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    • Also William was clearly intelligent as he was able to evade capture for several centuries.

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    • I'd say they are more than just monsters even in their wolf form, yes. But they seem to lose some of their reason while in wolf form. That's why Marius told his army to retain human form as long as possible. They also can't speak while in wolf form, but maybe that's because their vocal chords reshape to be more wolflike.

      I would imagine them to be like very angry humans in wolf form: driven to fight and less likely to calmly reflect on their strategy, but certainly not mindless monsters.

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    • Yellowantphil wrote: I'd say they are more than just monsters even in their wolf form, yes. But they seem to lose some of their reason while in wolf form. That's why Marius told his army to retain human form as long as possible. They also can't speak while in wolf form, but maybe that's because their vocal chords reshape to be more wolflike.

      I would imagine them to be like very angry humans in wolf form: driven to fight and less likely to calmly reflect on their strategy, but certainly not mindless monsters.

      Now there is an interpretation I can agree with.

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    • They would almost certainly be more impulsive in werewolf form.

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    • Hulk10 wrote: Also William was clearly intelligent as he was able to evade capture for several centuries.

      Yes, he must have been employing a shrewd strategy to evade the Death Dealers for hundreds of years. Perhaps he retained most or all of his intelligence but was generally overcome by his animal rage. Intelligent, powerful, and full of rage is a very dangerous combination.

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    • Yellowantphil wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote: Also William was clearly intelligent as he was able to evade capture for several centuries.

      Yes, he must have been employing a shrewd strategy to evade the Death Dealers for hundreds of years. Perhaps he retained most or all of his intelligence but was generally overcome by his animal rage. Intelligent, powerful, and full of rage is a very dangerous combination.

      Yes it is. And I suspect the same can be said of his creations, the first generation Werewolves.

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    • Its an interesting concept that the Lycan's greatest strength, their werewolf forms, is also their greatest weakness.

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    • How could one create a permament Lycan-Corvinus strain hybrid?

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    • Hulk10 wrote: How could one create a permament Lycan-Corvinus strain hybrid?

      Maybe by using Eve's blood somehow, like they were going to do in Awakening. She's the only person still alive who carries both the active Corvinus strain and the lycan virus. Michael's blood had the dormant Corvinus virus.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:
      How could one create a permament Lycan-Corvinus strain hybrid?

      I think it would only be possible if a Lycan had drank Alexander's blood. That would be the easy and quick way, at least. I'm not sure if Quint already was a permanent one.

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    • TrinityOverlord wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:
      How could one create a permament Lycan-Corvinus strain hybrid?

      I think it would only be possible if a Lycan had drank Alexander's blood. That would be the easy and quick way, at least. I'm not sure if Quint already was a permanent one.

      Maybe it was, who knows?

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    • Yellowantphil wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote: How could one create a permament Lycan-Corvinus strain hybrid?

      Maybe by using Eve's blood somehow, like they were going to do in Awakening. She's the only person still alive who carries both the active Corvinus strain and the lycan virus. Michael's blood had the dormant Corvinus virus.

      Yeah probably.

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    • TrinityOverlord wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:
      How could one create a permament Lycan-Corvinus strain hybrid?

      I think it would only be possible if a Lycan had drank Alexander's blood. That would be the easy and quick way, at least.

      That's what I was thinking initially, but David is a permanent hybrid and he only received Selene's blood. So I think that Eve or perhaps Selene would be a usable source of the original strain--the trouble is removing the vampire virus from their blood.

      This would be much simpler if Alexander or William were still alive.

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    • Yellowantphil wrote:

      TrinityOverlord wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:
      How could one create a permament Lycan-Corvinus strain hybrid?
      I think it would only be possible if a Lycan had drank Alexander's blood. That would be the easy and quick way, at least.
      That's what I was thinking initially, but David is a permanent hybrid and he only received Selene's blood. So I think that Eve or perhaps Selene would be a usable source of the original strain--the trouble is removing the vampire virus from their blood.

      This would be much simpler if Alexander or William were still alive.

      Yep, Eve would be the safest bet, since she already has the Lycan blood adapted to the C. strain. But what was Marius then? Neither he or Michael had the pure Corvinus strain, so he wasn't a Lycan-Corvinus strain hybrid. Marius also didn't have the Corvinus gene so he couldn't become a Lycan-Vampire hybrid. Michael's blood had Vampire virus in it, this shouldn't make a Lycan stronger... I guess.

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    • TrinityOverlord wrote:

      Yellowantphil wrote:

      TrinityOverlord wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:
      How could one create a permament Lycan-Corvinus strain hybrid?
      I think it would only be possible if a Lycan had drank Alexander's blood. That would be the easy and quick way, at least.
      That's what I was thinking initially, but David is a permanent hybrid and he only received Selene's blood. So I think that Eve or perhaps Selene would be a usable source of the original strain--the trouble is removing the vampire virus from their blood.

      This would be much simpler if Alexander or William were still alive.

      Yep, Eve would be the safest bet, since she already has the Lycan blood adapted to the C. strain. But what was Marius then? Neither he or Michael had the pure Corvinus strain, so he wasn't a Lycan-Corvinus strain hybrid. Marius also didn't have the Corvinus gene so he couldn't become a Lycan-Vampire hybrid. Michael's blood had Vampire virus in it, this shouldn't make a Lycan stronger... I guess.

      Hmm yeah your probably right.

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    • I can't remember where the discussions about names for Marcus' and Michael's hybrid forms but I did come across a reference a legendary creature called the Pricolici which is half vampire half werewolf.

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