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  • I do not believe Michael is dead not way when Marcus beat him In underworld evolution Michael came I believe he will return to Selene and eve Selene loves him and he loves her and he is eves father it's not fair to them that he is gone he's one of my favorite characters I hate Marius he toured Michael Marius was cruel mean and a monster I'm glad Selene killed he deserved it Do you all believe Michael will come back I hope he will

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    • Yes I agree with mate. I believe Michael Corvin will come and will be played by Scott Speedman again. I still do not get how he got caught by marius in the first place if that was the real Michael he would have killed marius and then he would not be a threat.

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    • Hi I am Logan Maroske I am the one you posted the second comment. I just you want you guys to know Michael Corvin is my favourite character I too hope he comes back. And if the studio is smart they will put him as the lead and have him as the new Lycan leader since Selene is a vampire elder they could finally get married and have both races unite in peace. and maybe just maybe they could have another child.

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    • At the end of the movie Eve had came to the Nordic Coven and found her mother on the ice. I bet the first thing Eve asks when she is introduced to the coven is going to be "Mother did find Father yet?". When Selene tells Eve about what happened to him she is going to be in tears because the way she reacted at the end of the fourth movie when she he is on the roof she excited meet her father and now that is probably not going to happen for a while.

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    • I hope Michael isn't dead but he probably is. The only problem is that a slit throat should have been nothing to him.

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    • Hulk10 you are correct a little slit to the throat and his blood drained should not kill for good not when he rose from the dead after being impaled through the heart that controls the blood flow through the body. As his love Selene said in Underworld: Evolution "Michael you're unique there has never been a hybrid before. The truth is your powers could limitless." Also if watch carefully in the flashback we Michael get taken by one shot from a gun just like. But if watch the first two movies and the animated short Underworld: Endless Michael took multiple shot from big machine and still had the strength to fight and run.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: Hulk10 you are correct a little slit to the throat and his blood drained should not kill for good not when he rose from the dead after being impaled through the heart that controls the blood flow through the body. As his love Selene said in Underworld: Evolution "Michael you're unique there has never been a hybrid before. The truth is your powers could limitless." Also if watch carefully in the flashback we Michael get taken by one shot from a gun just like. But if watch the first two movies and the animated short Underworld: Endless Michael took multiple shot from big machine and still had the strength to fight and run.

      Oh yeah.... I forgot about the case of Endless War. Though that film does show Selene firing pistols and hitting her targets without looking at them

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    • Also when you think about it Marius was not that smart he killed Michael before he even knew if Selene knew where Eve was. If he was smart he would have kept him alive that way he would still have plenty of hybrid blood to keep him going if he couldn't get Eve. And the way Marius just drank Michael's blood in front of Selene was Heart breaking. Because all that time Selene thought he was alive and it just turns out he is dead and that he is probably never going to meet their daughter and they'll never be a family.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: Also when you think about it Marius was not that smart he killed Michael before he even knew if Selene knew where Eve was. If he was smart he would have kept him alive that way he would still have plenty of hybrid blood to keep him going if he couldn't get Eve. And the way Marius just drank Michael's blood in front of Selene was Heart breaking. Because all that time Selene thought he was alive and it just turns out he is dead and that he is probably never going to meet their daughter and they'll never be a family.

      Yeah I agree, but we don't know if he really is dead

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    • The thing that annoys me the most is that they are just going the complete opposite of what the fans want. For Example there was a page where people get to vote on certain things and one of them was should Scott Speedman return as Michael Corvin. And the choses were "Theo James is Enough", Yes he should back and depends on the story. The results came back and votes were 1% to Theo James, 94% went to Speedman should come back and 3-4% went to depends on the story. And they went with the 1% to me that is kind of stupid and pathetic.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: The thing that annoys me the most is that they are just going the complete opposite of what the fans want. For Example there was a page where people get to vote on certain things and one of them was should Scott Speedman return as Michael Corvin. And the choses were "Theo James is Enough", Yes he should back and depends on the story. The results came back and votes were 1% to Theo James, 94% went to Speedman should come back and 3-4% went to depends on the story. And they went with the 1% to me that is kind of stupid and pathetic.

      I agree.

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    • Yeah it is such a big disservice to his character when he is suppose to be the first Hybrid the most powerful being out of all the Vampires and the Lycans aside from his daughter. And you are just sitting going what the hell? That should have never happened they killed off a character we all fell in love with and was hoping that was going to make a come back in future movies and now he is gone.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: Yeah it is such a big disservice to his character when he is suppose to be the first Hybrid the most powerful being out of all the Vampires and the Lycans aside from his daughter. And you are just sitting going what the hell? That should have never happened they killed off a character we all fell in love with and was hoping that was going to make a come back in future movies and now he is gone.

      Yeah and to 'replace' him with a character whose power is dubious at best, namely his daughter, is a crime. Nothing against Eve but she isn't as powerful as they claim.

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    • Another mistake that they are making is that reveal David is the son of Amelia and looks to him. But when you look at Michael he has got a better royal bloodline. He is the direct descendent of Alexander Corvinus the first true Immortal, the Distant Grand-Nephew of Marcus Corvinus the original Vampire Elder and the distant Grand-nephew of William Corvinus the first and only Werewolf Elder. So he should the one that everyone looks to for leadership. And another question what to Detective Sebastion Selene's human ally from the Underworld: Awakening. He was not even mentioned in the Blood Wars.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: Another mistake that they are making is that reveal David is the son of Amelia and looks to him. But when you look at Michael he has got a better royal bloodline. He is the direct descendent of Alexander Corvinus the first true Immortal, the Distant Grand-Nephew of Marcus Corvinus the original Vampire Elder and the distant Grand-nephew of William Corvinus the first and only Werewolf Elder. So he should the one that everyone looks to for leadership. And another question what to Detective Sebastion Selene's human ally from the Underworld: Awakening. He was not even mentioned in the Blood Wars.

      True but the son of Amelia thing was rather interesting, it fleshed out Amelia's character

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    • Hulk10 I agree but it is just not fair they give Michael all of this heritage really built up the character and they do absolutely nothing with it. But kind of out of now where David gets this unexpected heritage and everyone is laying it out on him. And don't get me wrong I like David I think he is a good character but I think they still should have used Michael more. Also What are your thoughts on Detective Sebastian not being in or mentioned in Blood wars.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: Hulk10 I agree but it is just not fair they give Michael all of this heritage really built up the character and they do absolutely nothing with it. But kind of out of now where David gets this unexpected heritage and everyone is laying it out on him. And don't get me wrong I like David I think he is a good character but I think they still should have used Michael more. Also What are your thoughts on Detective Sebastian not being in or mentioned in Blood wars.

      I agree they should have used Michael more. I personally don't care that they didn't mention Detective Sebastian in Blood Wars

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    • Yeah I think it was just a bit of a shame they didn't mention him because he kind of represented the humans that sure more to the immortals rather than those swap teams we saw in Awakening. Me personally I think it would be cool if they brought him back along with Michael Corvin. That way they could have them team up to fight and find Selene. It would be great because they have a lot in. They both were in love with vampires, they both now Selene and plus Sebastian's wife was a nurse and Michael was a Medical Intern so he can relate to him.

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    • True

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    • Also did you know there was a page called 4 reasons we don't need Scott Speedman/Michael Corvin. The first reason was Theo James is plenty and is a lot better male leading character than Michael Corvin and it is no compotation. The second reason is that they say Eve is all the hybrid we need. Third reason is they say "Why does Selene need Michael any way with all the Lycans and vampires hunting her she's got enough things to worry about. And finally the Len Wiseman said that Michael is distraction from the mother and daughter relationship and I say that is stupid and pathetic when Eve is not barley in the movie. And what about the Father and Daughter relationship between Michael and Eve Corvin.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: Also did you know there was a page called 4 reasons we don't need Scott Speedman/Michael Corvin. The first reason was Theo James is plenty and is a lot better male leading character than Michael Corvin and it is no compotation. The second reason is that they say Eve is all the hybrid we need. Third reason is they say "Why does Selene need Michael any way with all the Lycans and vampires hunting her she's got enough things to worry about. And finally the Len Wiseman said that Michael is distraction from the mother and daughter relationship and I say that is stupid and pathetic when Eve is not barley in the movie. And what about the Father and Daughter relationship between Michael and Eve Corvin.

      I did know that. But I do agree with you on it being pathetic.

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    • And if you look on the Scott Speedman's Underworld WIKI page it says at the end "Producer Richard Wright has stated that Speedman will return to the series if a fifth film is made." Fun fact is that he produced Blood Wars and has still not come out and apologised for making that statement and not keeping to it and disappointing the fans.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: And if you look on the Scott Speedman's Underworld WIKI page it says at the end "Producer Richard Wright has stated that Speedman will return to the series if a fifth film is made." Fun fact is that he produced Blood Wars and has still not come out and apologised for making that statement and not keeping to it and disappointing the fans.

      Yeah.........

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    • People say Speedman declined to appear in the film. The problem with that is that how can someone decline to appear in something if you don't even ask them? Plus if he did decline to appear in the film I don't blame him because his character does nothing but lie on the ground and hung upside down like a weak character. Scott Speedman said he would be more than happy to come back if it is a big, important dynamic part. If the script had this for him he would most likely do it.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: People say Speedman declined to appear in the film. The problem with that is that how can someone decline to appear in something if you don't even ask them? Plus if he did decline to appear in the film I don't blame him because his character does nothing but lie on the ground and hung upside down like a weak character. Scott Speedman said he would be more than happy to come back if it is a big, important dynamic part. If the script had this for him he would most likely do it.

      I agree

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    • In my opinion if they make a 6th film I think it should have Scott Speedman as the lead role. That way it would be following what the first trilogy did. The first two films had Kate Beckinsale has lead then in the third movie a side character from the first one took the lead Michael Sheen as Lucian. This trilogy can do it too it has Kate Beckinsale as the lead in the two films. Then the sixth film can still have Kate but with Scott Speedman as the lead as Michael Corvin. And his character can finally reach his full potential.

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    • 101.163.30.79 wrote: In my opinion if they make a 6th film I think it should have Scott Speedman as the lead role. That way it would be following what the first trilogy did. The first two films had Kate Beckinsale has lead then in the third movie a side character from the first one took the lead Michael Sheen as Lucian. This trilogy can do it too it has Kate Beckinsale as the lead in the two films. Then the sixth film can still have Kate but with Scott Speedman as the lead as Michael Corvin. And his character can finally reach his full potential.

      That would be nice

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    • My Ideas for Underworld 6

      Title: Underworld: Resurrection Director: Len Wiseman Cast: Scott Speedman, Kate Beckinsale, India Eisley, Michael Ealy, Theo James, Clementine Nicholson, Lara Pulver, Channing Tatum, Bradly James Tag Lines: Every War must meet its end. A family Unites. Speedman is back and stronger and more powerful than ever before.

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    • 203.104.11.75 wrote: My Ideas for Underworld 6

      Title: Underworld: Resurrection Director: Len Wiseman Cast: Scott Speedman, Kate Beckinsale, India Eisley, Michael Ealy, Theo James, Clementine Nicholson, Lara Pulver, Channing Tatum, Bradly James Tag Lines: Every War must meet its end. A family Unites. Speedman is back and stronger and more powerful than ever before.

      Cool.

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    • Yeah the main plot would be about Michael trying to find his place in this new world and what can he do and maybe gain a new ability.  And also trying to find Selene and trying to find out what happened to her because he has not seen her in over 12 years not since they were seperated during the purges at the docks.  When he does find Selene he also has to deal with the fact that he fathered a daughter with her and learns to become a great father to Eve.  They can fight as one big happy family against the new bad guys. 

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    • Michael was able to hold his ground against Vampire Elder Victor after 10 seconds after becoming a hybrid. He also held his own against Marcus Corvinus who was also a hybrid and was the first vampire in less than a day of becoming a hybrid. Michael Corvin also killed and defeated William Corvinus the first and most powerful and most savage Werewolf/Lycan by ripping his head clean in half with his bare hands. Also in Underworld: Endless War he killed half a dozen of female Lycans armed with machine guns and fought and sended Krandrill a Lycan lord flying out a window. So my question is how the hell did he captured by Marius an average Joe Lycan?

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    • 203.104.11.80 wrote: Michael was able to hold his ground against Vampire Elder Victor after 10 seconds after becoming a hybrid. He also held his own against Marcus Corvinus who was also a hybrid and was the first vampire in less than a day of becoming a hybrid. Michael Corvin also killed and defeated William Corvinus the first and most powerful and most savage Werewolf/Lycan by ripping his head clean in half with his bare hands. Also in Underworld: Endless War he killed half a dozen of female Lycans armed with machine guns and fought and sended Krandrill a Lycan lord flying out a window. So my question is how the hell did he captured by Marius an average Joe Lycan?

      I suspect it was ambush.

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    • But if watch it really carfully you will see that Michael was not the only person who was shot.  You will see that there are two men and one woman.  Who do think those people were?  People think they were an organisation of humans that were helping immortals simular to the cleaners in Underworld: Evolution unlike the swat teams we saw in Underworld Awakening and Underworld: Endless War.  Some other people think they were Lycans who were good guys who were just trying to help Michael and they were not the power craving ass-hole Lycans like Jacob lane, Quint Lane and Marius.  Hulk10 who do you think they were? 

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    • 203.104.11.21 wrote: But if watch it really carfully you will see that Michael was not the only person who was shot.  You will see that there are two men and one woman.  Who do think those people were?  People think they were an organisation of humans that were helping immortals simular to the cleaners in Underworld: Evolution unlike the swat teams we saw in Underworld Awakening and Underworld: Endless War.  Some other people think they were Lycans who were good guys who were just trying to help Michael and they were not the power craving ass-hole Lycans like Jacob lane, Quint Lane and Marius.  Hulk10 who do you think they were? 

      I think they were just innocent bystanders.

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    • Yeah and maybe they were just trying help Michael and get him back to full strength and also maybe they were trying to make him their leader that way they could have someone strong to lead their team.

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    • 203.104.11.24 wrote: Yeah and maybe they were just trying help Michael and get him back to full strength and also maybe they were trying to make him their leader that way they could have someone strong to lead their team.

      That seems unlikely.

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    • I know that it seems unlikely but it would fun if that was the case.

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    • 203.104.11.24 wrote: I know that it seems unlikely but it would fun if that was the case.

      Yeah

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    • Guys do you think that maybe this whole Michael death thing was just a way to set up Marius as a formidable enemy and that Len Wiseman purposely had the setting of Michael's death(antigen....right next to his cryo chamber).. directly contradict Eve's vision to set up a resurgence of Michael in the 6th movie?.....it doesn't make sense to me as to how the co-writer of the story of Underworld could make such huge mistakes in his own movie. First he makes Michael survive a fatal injury(steel pike through the heart).....which would cause massive blood loss......which goes against the notion that Michael can be killed by exsanguination.......and in the proir movie Eve has a vision of Michael on the roof......whereas Marius' memories show that he drained Michael in the building. Yet Eve saw Michael on the roof on their escape. Do you honestly think a story writer would put such plot holes into his movie? Len knows that dismemberment kills a hybrid so why didnt he show Michael being dismembered?......he knows that Michael has survived worse injuries yet he still went with the slit the throat angle. And he gave Eve the Michael treatment in blood wars as well.......Len also wrote Michael out of Awakening because and I quote" Michael is such an important Character so we couldn't have him there as a side character"......after examining all of this it makes no sense as to why he would just up and kill Michael......unless he is hinting to the Corvin family re uniting in the last film.......as in the end of BW we saw Inda Isley again. To this date we have had a Michael death scare twice. First in Evolution and then in Awakening when everyone proclaimed that Michael was dead......what if this is another one of those scares? There isn't mich left in the series at this point.....for the final movie giving the fans the Michael Selene Eve ending they have wanted for so long would be a great way to end the series.......In simmary.....I doubt Len would purposely make the above mistakes without a reason. There is so much room for Michael to return.......he can't fuck this up.....unless he is a douche

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    • Lets not forget that Len Wiseman wasn't the director of Blood Wars.

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    • Yeah he was not the director for this one Ana forester was and I do not think she even cares about Scott Speedman or his character Michael Corvin. Because someone on Twitter asked Miss Forester will Scott Speedman/Michael ever return? And she just completely ignored that question and later on she said it was all about "vagina power". Who the hell says that? Do you know what I think? I think Ana is afraid that if they did bring back Scott Speedman it would take Kate Beckinsale's spot light of the franchise and would probably dominate the box office more than hers.

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    • Is it possible for someone to go on twitter and give wisemam a link to the poll mentioned above about people that want speedman back?......and something else. Wiseman was still a co writer in BW and to think he let it (michael dying) slide is unbelievable. I think wiseman let it slide because he knows that he will bring Speedman/michael back in this one. It may be an obscene theory but honestly.....do you think he would let such an important character die in such a meaningless way without any fulfilment.....even with a new director in the mix?.....to let someone just shoehorn their vagina power bullshit into a beloved franchise thereby killing it?......a director cant just watch something he spent so much time setting up be ruined by progressive bullshit....plus Ana Forester going against prior material is just bullshit....i believe that a little backlash might get him and Ana on the straight and narrow again.......Speedman himself said that he is more than happy to come back.......it is just a matter of his phone ringing

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    • 168.167.95.171 wrote: Is it possible for someone to go on twitter and give wisemam a link to the poll mentioned above about people that want speedman back?......and something else. Wiseman was still a co writer in BW and to think he let it (michael dying) slide is unbelievable. I think wiseman let it slide because he knows that he will bring Speedman/michael back in this one. It may be an obscene theory but honestly.....do you think he would let such an important character die in such a meaningless way without any fulfilment.....even with a new director in the mix?.....to let someone just shoehorn their vagina power bullshit into a beloved franchise thereby killing it?......a director cant just watch something he spent so much time setting up be ruined by progressive bullshit....plus Ana Forester going against prior material is just bullshit....i believe that a little backlash might get him and Ana on the straight and narrow again.......Speedman himself said that he is more than happy to come back.......it is just a matter of his phone ringing

      I agree.

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    • How bad is the fan backlash on "killing" Michael?

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    • 168.167.95.171 wrote: How bad is the fan backlash on "killing" Michael?

      Not very bad I'll wager

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    • Yeah as I mentioned earlier on the voting pad on wether he should come back or not. It was not the only voting pad their was and Michael Corvin won all of them. Yet when you watch the movie you see none of it and you only see the stuff that got the least votes. And you're going what the hell? Plus this movie does not feel like a proper sequel to Underworld: Awakening because Awakening left a cliff hanger where the fifth movie could have been about Selene and Eve finding Michael and they fight together as a team and a family. And Blood Wars does not do any of that it goes in a unexpected and unwanted direction and the complete opposite of Awakening left open.

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    • 203.104.11.80 wrote: Yeah as I mentioned earlier on the voting pad on wether he should come back or not. It was not the only voting pad their was and Michael Corvin won all of them. Yet when you watch the movie you see none of it and you only see the stuff that got the least votes. And you're going what the hell? Plus this movie does not feel like a proper sequel to Underworld: Awakening because Awakening left a cliff hanger where the fifth movie could have been about Selene and Eve finding Michael and they fight together as a team and a family. And Blood Wars does not do any of that it goes in a unexpected and unwanted direction and the complete opposite of Awakening left open.

      Yeah the creators have a story in mind that they want to tell.

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    • Ana Forester thinks that Theo James as David is a lot better leading male than Scott Speedman as Michael Corvin. I thinks that is ridiculous because Michael is the first hybrid, Decendent of Alexander Corvinus, The distant grand nephew Marcus and William Corvinus (one was the orginal vampire elder and the other was the first Werewolf/Lycan) and the defeater of William Corvinus. Also the Lover of Selene the best death dealer and one of the new vampire elder, father of Eve, he rose from the dead after impaled through the heart and hand with no help and got his Lycan side from Lucian the best Lycan leader and his vampire side from Selene. Plus he was the very first character written for franchise.

      David does have some good things about him but not as close as Michael's. David is the son of Amelia, one of the new vampire elders and he rose from the dead but only did so because Selene helped him if she did not do what she did he would still be dead. And the defeater of Semira a vampire who stole Selene's blood and people have said maybe she is not dead because of her age and Corvinus blood as Victor had survived a very simular injury in the 3rd movie.

      So you tell me who do think is better and why?

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    • 203.104.11.80 wrote: Ana Forester thinks that Theo James as David is a lot better leading male than Scott Speedman as Michael Corvin. I thinks that is ridiculous because Michael is the first hybrid, Decendent of Alexander Corvinus, The distant grand nephew Marcus and William Corvinus (one was the orginal vampire elder and the other was the first Werewolf/Lycan) and the defeater of William Corvinus. Also the Lover of Selene the best death dealer and one of the new vampire elder, father of Eve, he rose from the dead after impaled through the heart and hand with no help and got his Lycan side from Lucian the best Lycan leader and his vampire side from Selene. Plus he was the very first character written for franchise.

      David does have some good things about him but not as close as Michael's. David is the son of Amelia, one of the new vampire elders and he rose from the dead but only did so because Selene helped him if she did not do what she did he would still be dead. And the defeater of Semira a vampire who stole Selene's blood and people have said maybe she is not dead because of her age and Corvinus blood as Victor had survived a very simular injury in the 3rd movie.

      So you tell me who do think is better and why?

      Michael for the same reasons as you

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    • Yeah and some people have come up with some lame excuses on why Scott Speedman didn't come back.  The first one is that they say he is too old to do it anymore.  That is just stupid because Scott is 41 and Kate was 43 when they made Blood Wars and she just turned 44 not to long a go and she is comfirmed for Underworld 6.  People say Len did not want him to come back for 2 reasons.  One he did  not want his character to get in the way of Selene and Eve.  Two Len and Kate aren't married anymore and Scott did a full on love scene with her in the second movie and so maybe did not want him doing another romantic scene with her.  And the last excuse is what I said earlier they say he declined to be in the movie even though they didn't ask him.   

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    • Michael Corvin is not the only character that was "killed" off in Blood Wars. Fans have come out said that Semira might have survived too because if you watch Underworld: Rise of the Lyans you will see that Victor was stabbed in a simular motion that Semira was and he lived this along with her Corvinus Strain it is possible she is alive. And if this is the case you could have Michael face off with Semira and Michael can finally kill a vampire. Yes he has faced off with vampires (Victor and Tannis) but so far all of Michael's kills have been Werewolves/Lycans.

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    • 203.104.11.80 wrote: Michael Corvin is not the only character that was "killed" off in Blood Wars. Fans have come out said that Semira might have survived too because if you watch Underworld: Rise of the Lyans you will see that Victor was stabbed in a simular motion that Semira was and he lived this along with her Corvinus Strain it is possible she is alive. And if this is the case you could have Michael face off with Semira and Michael can finally kill a vampire. Yes he has faced off with vampires (Victor and Tannis) but so far all of Michael's kills have been Werewolves/Lycans.

      Good pount

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    • Thank you Hulk10.  Also if they do meet and Michael finds out what she did to Selene he is going to be really pissed off and all hell will break loose.  If Semira thought David and Selene's power and abilities were impressive she has not seen nothing yet.  Michael would probaly say or think "You mess with my True Love.  You are messing with hell".  

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    • 203.104.11.80 wrote: Thank you Hulk10.  Also if they do meet and Michael finds out what she did to Selene he is going to be really pissed off and all hell will break loose.  If Semira thought David and Selene's power and abilities were impressive she has not seen nothing yet.  Michael would probaly say or think "You mess with my True Love.  You are messing with hell".  

      True

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    • Do know what would be cool is that if a 6th movie is made it would be cool if they brought the humans back into the war and they have one epic final battle with the Immortals vs the Mortals. And at the end of the film after they defeated the humans and Semira Michael could be named as new the Elder of the Lycans (He is a hybrid and half Vampire and half Lycan but he shows more of a Lycan appearance) like William was. And him and Selene could get married and have both races unite in peace and maybe they could another child and a have them as a big happy family.

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    • 203.104.11.80 wrote: Do know what would be cool is that if a 6th movie is made it would be cool if they brought the humans back into the war and they have one epic final battle with the Immortals vs the Mortals. And at the end of the film after they defeated the humans and Semira Michael could be named as new the Elder of the Lycans (He is a hybrid and half Vampire and half Lycan but he shows more of a Lycan appearance) like William was. And him and Selene could get married and have both races unite in peace and maybe they could another child and a have them as a big happy family.

      That would never work.

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    • Why do you think that?

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    • 203.104.11.80 wrote: Why do you think that?

      Simple because they could never defeat the humans, also do you really think the Lycans would accept Michael as their elder?

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    • Good point. But when I say "Defeat the humans" I don't mean wipe them out but just to beat to them and show how powerful they can be when they work together so they would leave them alone for good and do not bother them or threaten to wipe their races out again.

      And yes I do think the Lycans would accept Michael as their elder because he as all the aspects to be one. He defeated William who was the only known and most powerful Werewolf-Lycan Elder who was also his Distant-Grand Uncle. He is much stronger than any other Lycan, has great leadership potential. I will admit Michael may not accept at first after what they did to him in Blood Wars. But he might learn that he could use this to prevent any other Lycan from going on a rampage and causing destruction like Marius did.

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    • 203.104.11.80 wrote: Good point. But when I say "Defeat the humans" I don't mean wipe them out but just to beat to them and show how powerful they can be when they work together so they would leave them alone for good and do not bother them or threaten to wipe their races out again.

      And yes I do think the Lycans would accept Michael as their elder because he as all the aspects to be one. He defeated William who was the only known and most powerful Werewolf-Lycan Elder who was also his Distant-Grand Uncle. He is much stronger than any other Lycan, has great leadership potential. I will admit Michael may not accept at first after what they did to him in Blood Wars. But he might learn that he could use this to prevent any other Lycan from going on a rampage and causing destruction like Marius did.

      That still seems unlikely.

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    • Yeah it I know it does seem unlikely that he will become the new Lycan Elder. But he would make a great leader if not maybe the vampires will except him because he is the lover of on of their new elders. And maybe his place in the coven could be a healer like a Oliver was in the fourth movie since he had a medical surgeon degree.

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    • And to me it will be interesting to how the vampires would react at Michael's arrival especially Varga (the vampire that paralysed Selene) and Cassus ( the male vampire council member that hated Selene in Blood Wars).

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    • Another idea is that Michael Corvin  could become the ambassador of both races since he is the First Hybrid of the 3 Hybrids that have ever exsisted.

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    • 203.104.11.75 wrote: Another idea is that Michael Corvin  could become the ambassador of both races since he is the First Hybrid of the 3 Hybrids that have ever exsisted.

      That seems unlikely

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    • I know it seems unlikely for him to become the ambassador but would it be a cool twist in the movie because he can unite both races which would give them better protection if the humans are still hunting them. Plus it would give Michael Corvin his full circle just like Selene did in Blood Wars.

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    • Hulk10 what would you like to see Michael do or become in the next one? 

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    • 203.104.11.79 wrote: Hulk10 what would you like to see Michael do or become in the next one? 

      I want to see him gain a new power or boost his abilities

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    • What kind of power or ability that you want him to have?

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    • 203.104.11.79 wrote: What kind of power or ability that you want him to have?

      the ability to increase his size and strength.

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    • And who would like to see Michael use this ability on? Would you like to see him use it on Semira or a Super Lycan like Quint or Marius?

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    • 203.104.11.79 wrote: And who would like to see Michael use this ability on? Would you like to see him use it on Semira or a Super Lycan like Quint or Marius?

      Both

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    • Yeah that's what I'm talking about buddy.   I do not know which kill would be the most statisfying one. 

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    • 203.104.11.79 wrote: Yeah that's what I'm talking about buddy.   I do not know which kill would be the most statisfying one. 

      Me neither

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    • You know since Semira wanted revenge on Victors death and she finds out that Selene's Lover is at the coven she would probably want to killed him since Michael is the person that she cares for and loves the most. Just like how Victor was to her.

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    • 203.104.11.79 wrote: You know since Semira wanted revenge on Victors death and she finds out that Selene's Lover is at the coven she would probably want to killed him since Michael is the person that she cares for and loves the most. Just like how Victor was to her.

      True but I doubt Semira would last long against Michael.

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    • That is very true but it would be satisfying to see Semira get what she's got coming for her after she took Selene's blood and tried to kill her and murdered Thomas. Plus she probably thinks that she is better than anyone else and does not think that Michael would not have the guts to fight and kill her.

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    • 203.104.11.79 wrote: That is very true but it would be satisfying to see Semira get what she's got coming for her after she took Selene's blood and tried to kill her and murdered Thomas. Plus she probably thinks that she is better than anyone else and does not think that Michael would not have the guts to fight and kill her.

      Aren't we forgetting that Ana Foerester want's us to think Semira is dead?

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    • No I am not forgetting that but are you not forgetting that she also think Michael is dead too.

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    • 203.104.11.79 wrote: No I am not forgetting that but are you not forgetting that she also think Michael is dead too.

      No I haven't forgotten that she wants us to think Michael is dead too

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    • I'm letting you know that I was just doing a figure speech. And I knew that you did not forget that mate.

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    • 203.104.11.79 wrote: I'm letting you know that I was just doing a figure speech. And I knew that you did not forget that mate.

      Yeah

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    • But to me it would awesome to have Sermira as the main villian of the next movie and Michael Corvin as the main hero.  And it would be a good fight but in the end if Michael gets a good grip around her head and neck I think Semira would be in really deep trouble. 

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    • 203.104.11.79 wrote: But to me it would awesome to have Sermira as the main villian of the next movie and Michael Corvin as the main hero.  And it would be a good fight but in the end if Michael gets a good grip around her head and neck I think Semira would be in really deep trouble. 

      I agree

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    • What do think of the idea of Michael and Selene getting married at the end of the 6th movie? To me it would be cool because we have never seen a marriage in the franchise before let a lone a marriage with a Vampire Elder.

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    • 203.104.11.28 wrote: What do think of the idea of Michael and Selene getting married at the end of the 6th movie? To me it would be cool because we have never seen a marriage in the franchise before let a lone a marriage with a Vampire Elder.

      I like the idea

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    • If they do get married what do think Michael Corvin's place will be in the coven?

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    • 203.104.11.22 wrote: If they do get married what do think Michael Corvin's place will be in the coven?

      Probably in the medical profession

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    • In my opinion I think David and Michael would get on really well because they have a lot in common.]

      1.  They are both from a royal immortal bloodline. David: Amelia    Michael: Alexander, Marcus and William Corvinus.

      2. They are both close to Selene. David: Friends   Michael: Romantic

      3. They both came from the dead thanks to the Corvinus Strain.  David was fatlally killed by a Lycan and Selene restarted his heart with her Corvinus Strain.  Michael:  Got Impaled through the heart and the hand by another Hybrid Marcus.  And his own blood restarted his own heart by himself.

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    • Eve is going to be pissed when she finds out that her mother did not find her father. And she is going to be even more pissed off when she finds out that he is "dead" when she was looking forward to meeting him. But I think she will calm down a bit when Selene tells her that she killed the man who murdered her father.

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    • To me it would be great to see Eve and Michael to interact with one another because they are the last members of the Corvinus Clan that still exist and the only 2 Hybrids that exist. Plus it will give Selene the thing she has not had for near over 6 centuries: A family of her own.

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    • To me the way they could start the movie is with the opening narration by Selene again. And the way she could end the narration is Eves father and My Love had been killed or so I thought.

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    • 203.104.11.25 wrote: In my opinion I think David and Michael would get on really well because they have a lot in common.]

      1.  They are both from a royal immortal bloodline. David: Amelia    Michael: Alexander, Marcus and William Corvinus.

      2. They are both close to Selene. David: Friends   Michael: Romantic

      3. They both came from the dead thanks to the Corvinus Strain.  David was fatlally killed by a Lycan and Selene restarted his heart with her Corvinus Strain.  Michael:  Got Impaled through the heart and the hand by another Hybrid Marcus.  And his own blood restarted his own heart by himself.

      Also the one more thing that they have in common that I forgot was that the ladies love them and they find them attractive, sexy and hot (their words).
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    • To me it would be cool if Michael's body gets found by Detective Sebastian who was assigned to investigate a Lycan den by his department. And Michael wakes up and finds himself in a hospital like room and is wondering where he is and Sebastian comes and is shocked to see him alive and he explains everything to him. Then Michael would start to babble about Selene and Sebastian would recognise the name and tells him that he knows her and Michael would ask do where she is and he would say no but Sebastian says that he would like to help him find her. Then they would probably join up together.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: To me it would be cool if Michael's body gets found by Detective Sebastian who was assigned to investigate a Lycan den by his department. And Michael wakes up and finds himself in a hospital like room and is wondering where he is and Sebastian comes and is shocked to see him alive and he explains everything to him. Then Michael would start to babble about Selene and Sebastian would recognise the name and tells him that he knows her and Michael would ask do where she is and he would say no but Sebastian says that he would like to help him find her. Then they would probably join up together.

      This seems unlikely

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    • How would you introduce Michael into the movie?

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: How would you introduce Michael into the movie?

      Maybe Eve knows where he is?

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    • I do not think so because the only way Eve can know where he is if she can see through his eyes and that is useless because he is "dead" and it only works if they are close to one another. And let me tell you my friend they are definitely not close to one another because Michael's body is in an abandon warehouse/Lycan den and Eve is in the far north at the Nordic Coven with her mother Selene. So that is probably not going to work.

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    • well I don't think its likely the Lycans will choose him as their leader especially due to his relationship with Selene.

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    • Ah but I did not say "choose" him as the leader. I said Michael would challenge the Lycan for leadership. He does have the right because his Distant-Grand Uncle was the starter of the Lycan bloodlines and he defeated him. Plus he got his strong Lycan side from Lucian who was the greatest Lycan leader ever and Lucian respected Michael and he for field out Lucians will. So it should not matter who Michael is in an relationship with.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: Ah but I did not say "choose" him as the leader. I said Michael would challenge the Lycan for leadership. He does have the right because his Distant-Grand Uncle was the starter of the Lycan bloodlines and he defeated him. Plus he got his strong Lycan side from Lucian who was the greatest Lycan leader ever and Lucian respected Michael and he for field out Lucians will. So it should not matter who Michael is in an relationship with.

      But isn't that a little out of character for Michael to challenge someone for leadership?

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    • It would not out of his character if he is doing it for someone he loves  and cares about.  Because Michael is very sympathetic character if he saw the new leader about to kill Selene or Eve he would do anything to stop that from happening.

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    • 101.163.4.70 wrote: It would not out of his character if he is doing it for someone he loves  and cares about.  Because Michael is very sympathetic character if he saw the new leader about to kill Selene or Eve he would do anything to stop that from happening.

      That's true enough.

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    • Plus if he married Selene it would be official.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: Plus if he married Selene it would be official.

      I think its unlikely that that happy ending will occur

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    • True but I can dream can't I?

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: True but I can dream can't I?

      yeah but be prepared for disappointment

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    • I already have. Because I was expecting them to follow the cliff hanger from the fourth movie with them finding Michael and them fighting together. But no I got this story that I did not want with some cheap visual affects and it focused and put a character in the spotlight that I was not routing for to be the ruler.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: I already have. Because I was expecting them to follow the cliff hanger from the fourth movie with them finding Michael and them fighting together. But no I got this story that I did not want with some cheap visual affects and it focused and put a character in the spotlight that I was not routing for to be the ruler.

      Yeah I agree.......

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    • But hopefully the studio and Len Wiseman will come to their senses and Michael Corvin back and forget the whole "He is a distraction from the mother and daughter relationship between Selene and Eve" bullshit. And give us a bit more of the father and daughter relationship.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: But hopefully the studio and Len Wiseman will come to their senses and Michael Corvin back and forget the whole "He is a distraction from the mother and daughter relationship between Selene and Eve" bullshit. And give us a bit more of the father and daughter relationship.

      Yeah I agree but I'm not optimistic

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    • To me all they need to convince me for a sixth film is Scott Speedman. If they bring him back that is all I need.

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    • Do you know what is interesting is that Speedman has had plenty of interviews after Underworld: Blood Wars was released and not one of them even bothered to ask him about it.

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    • It is interesting isn't it?

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    • Yeah it is because when the fourth movie came out he was asked about it and where he was. Scott just said that "I was not in it. That's not up to me you have to ask Len or Screm Gems. I was not in that one. Its doing well though. It's doing really well. Did you like it was it good? It was alright but it had something missing ( then Scott points to himself). Yeah this guy right here".

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    • So that proves that Speedman would have been more than happy to come back if they have his character a big part in the movie like he was in the first 2 movies.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: So that proves that Speedman would have been more than happy to come back if they have his character a big part in the movie like he was in the first 2 movies.

      True

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote:
      So that proves that Speedman would have been more than happy to come back if they have his character a big part in the movie like he was in the first 2 movies.

      Michael  is my favorite character, I hope they put him back with Speedman

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    • Thank you he is my favourite charater too.  I hope they bring Speedman back too because without him it does not have the Underworld vibe that the first 2 films had even though it still had Kate Beckinsale.  Also it was his relationship and chemistry that he had with Kate Beckinsale that made the seris popular.  Without it just feels like a Resident Evil type movie (not being offence to that franchise).

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: Thank you he is my favourite charater too.  I hope they bring Speedman back too because without him it does not have the Underworld vibe that the first 2 films had even though it still had Kate Beckinsale.  Also it was his relationship and chemistry that he had with Kate Beckinsale that made the seris popular.  Without it just feels like a Resident Evil type movie (not being offence to that franchise).

      Michael is my favorite character too

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    • One thing I still do not get and we have been over this but I still wonder who those 3 people that were with moments be fore he died.  Who were they and why were they helping Michael?

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: One thing I still do not get and we have been over this but I still wonder who those 3 people that were with moments be fore he died.  Who were they and why were they helping Michael?

      I doubt they were

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    • If not then what were they doing then?

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: If not then what were they doing then?

      No idea

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    • That is another question Michael can answer if he is in the next movie.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: That is another question Michael can answer if he is in the next movie.

      Yeah

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    • If he really died then how is Selene going to tell Eve that her father and the love of her mothers life that she was looking forward to meeting is now dead.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: If he really died then how is Selene going to tell Eve that her father and the love of her mothers life that she was looking forward to meeting is now dead.

      No idea

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    • Yeah it is going to be tough for Selene because she is probaly still getting used to the idea that he is gone.  Plus that is probaly the first question Eve is going to ask after she came to the Nordic Coven.  "Mother have you found father yet?"

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: Yeah it is going to be tough for Selene because she is probaly still getting used to the idea that he is gone.  Plus that is probaly the first question Eve is going to ask after she came to the Nordic Coven.  "Mother have you found father yet?"

      Maybe not

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    • Still  Eve is going to be very upset and sad to here about her father.

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    • True.

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    • It is even a bit more sad when you think about the fact that Selene complained about fighting for Eve but lost.  When Michael did not even fight for her and worse he does not know she even  exsists.  At the end of the movie Selene said she does not fear death because she has known it.  When you compare it to Michael she does no shit about death because Michael has done twice in a lot worse ways.  She was just shot a few a times and stabbed.  While Michael was impaled through the heart , chest and his hand and was shot, strung upside down and his throat slit and his blood drained.  So Selene you think you know death?   Look at your love.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: It is even a bit more sad when you think about the fact that Selene complained about fighting for Eve but lost.  When Michael did not even fight for her and worse he does not know she even  exsists.  At the end of the movie Selene said she does not fear death because she has known it.  When you compare it to Michael she does no shit about death because Michael has done twice in a lot worse ways.  She was just shot a few a times and stabbed.  While Michael was impaled through the heart , chest and his hand and was shot, strung upside down and his throat slit and his blood drained.  So Selene you think you know death?   Look at your love.

      Complained about fighting for Eve?

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    • Yeah when she was talking to David in the car and at the Nordic Coven.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: Yeah when she was talking to David in the car and at the Nordic Coven.

      Sounds like she wasn't happy to have a daughter.........

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    • The thing that Selene and David said in their conversation was that Selene said his parents protected him and David points out she fought for her child.  The thing that I noticed about David and Eve was that they did not know one of their parents.  For David it was his mother and for Eve it was her father.  See the differance?  But the other differance is both of his parents knew he existed and both of his parents fought for him.  For Eve it is only one parent that knows she existed and fought for. 

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: The thing that Selene and David said in their conversation was that Selene said his parents protected him and David points out she fought for her child.  The thing that I noticed about David and Eve was that they did not know one of their parents.  For David it was his mother and for Eve it was her father.  See the differance?  But the other differance is both of his parents knew he existed and both of his parents fought for him.  For Eve it is only one parent that knows she existed and fought for. 

      That doesn't change the fact that she complained about fighting for her daughter.

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    • All I'm saying is that it kind of seemed unfair for Selene saying that she lost the fight to keep Eve when Michael does not know about her.

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    • Ok......

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    • What I want for the 6th film is for Michael to be excepted by the covens and him to be with Selene again and  have him be a father to be Eve.  And for him to gain a new ability and have him reach full circle like Selene did when she became an Elder.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: What I want for the 6th film is for Michael to be excepted by the covens and him to be with Selene again and  have him be a father to be Eve.  And for him to gain a new ability and have him reach full circle like Selene did when she became an Elder.

      Unfortunately that isn't going to happen. At least its not likely to happen.

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    • Yeah it is not going to happen if they keep Ana Forester as the director with her "vagina power" bullshit.  She is never going to bring Scott Speedman back or his character at all for that matter. 

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: Yeah it is not going to happen if they keep Ana Forester as the director with her "vagina power" bullshit.  She is never going to bring Scott Speedman back or his character at all for that matter. 

      A more polite term would be girl power.

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    • I know it would but that is literly what said Ana said.  She vagina power in an interview.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: I know it would but that is literly what said Ana said.  She vagina power in an interview.

      I know.......... ugh.............

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    • I do not see why they think it was a good idea to hire her.  The only reason why they hired her was just to have a woman director with an action franchise led by a woman.  She does not care about Scott Speedman or his character at all so far.  She said that she was not going to have any mention of Michael in the movie at all in the orginal script not even that little thing that we got in the movie.  And she ignored a fan who asked "Will Scott Speedman/Michael ever return?".

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: I do not see why they think it was a good idea to hire her.  The only reason why they hired her was just to have a woman director with an action franchise led by a woman.  She does not care about Scott Speedman or his character at all so far.  She said that she was not going to have any mention of Michael in the movie at all in the orginal script not even that little thing that we got in the movie.  And she ignored a fan who asked "Will Scott Speedman/Michael ever return?".

      I agree

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    • Thank you Hulk10.

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    • Your welcome

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    • What are your thoughts on Len Wiseman saying that Michael Corvin is a distraction from Selene and Eve's mother-daughter relationship?

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: What are your thoughts on Len Wiseman saying that Michael Corvin is a distraction from Selene and Eve's mother-daughter relationship?

      That its bullshit

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    • Yes it is bullshit because he used the same excuse on Underworld Awakening.  I am just curious how can Michael be a distraction when Eve only appears for the last 15 seconds of the  movie with no lines?

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    • Yeah I  think they are afraid.  Because if they bring back Scott Speedman/Michael Corvin it would probaly do better than Kate Becinsale and would do great at the box office.

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    • I doubt that.

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    • I know but Scott Speedman he is a good leading man.  If watch his movie called Edward Boyde: Citsen Gangster where he was the main star and he did a really good job at it.  And if they put him as the lead in the next one you never know he might surprise us.  And would make plenty of money for the franchise.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: I know but Scott Speedman he is a good leading man.  If watch his movie called Edward Boyde: Citsen Gangster where he was the main star and he did a really good job at it.  And if they put him as the lead in the next one you never know he might surprise us.  And would make plenty of money for the franchise.

      oh yeah? well the way things are going Michael isn't coming back and as far as I'm concerned that's a problem

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    • Yeah it is a problem.  Because if they keep Ana Forestor on board we will not get Scott Speedman back or the character of Michael Corvin at all for that matter.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: Yeah it is a problem.  Because if they keep Ana Forestor on board we will not get Scott Speedman back or the character of Michael Corvin at all for that matter.

      Yeah.............

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    • It is just Michael Corvin has so much potentional story wise with him being the first Hybrid and the Descendent of the Corvinus Clan and they do absolutly nothing him.  It's frustrating. Miss Forestor says she likes exploring a good story and if that is true then how come she does not bother with this?

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: It is just Michael Corvin has so much potentional story wise with him being the first Hybrid and the Descendent of the Corvinus Clan and they do absolutly nothing him.  It's frustrating. Miss Forestor says she likes exploring a good story and if that is true then how come she does not bother with this?

      That's true enough

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    • Thank you.

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    • There is a movie reviewer who said "I feel cheated and robbed of seeing who Michael Corvin could have really been and now I know hes dead were just not going to see it.  That'll never happen.  Sorry Scott Speedman.  We'll never see the potional of Michael Corvin".  There is also review called Underworld Blood Wars review:  Maybe Michael might did not die"  And its where this girl comes up 3 different theories on why she thinks Michael is not dead.  It is pretty good stuff.  She does have a bit of trouble saying things sometimes but her theories make sence.  Have a watch of it.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: There is a movie reviewer who said "I feel cheated and robbed of seeing who Michael Corvin could have really been and now I know hes dead were just not going to see it.  That'll never happen.  Sorry Scott Speedman.  We'll never see the potional of Michael Corvin".  There is also review called Underworld Blood Wars review:  Maybe Michael might did not die"  And its where this girl comes up 3 different theories on why she thinks Michael is not dead.  It is pretty good stuff.  She does have a bit of trouble saying things sometimes but her theories make sence.  Have a watch of it.

      link to the theories?

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    • I do not have to it is right on youtube.  All you have to is type up "Underworld: Michael might did not die" and it should be the first thing that pops up.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: I do not have to it is right on youtube.  All you have to is type up "Underworld: Michael might did not die" and it should be the first thing that pops up.

      ok thanks

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    • Your welcome Hulk10 my friend.

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    • Has I was saying they could so much with Michael.  They could devolope his relationship with Selene even more now that they have a child together.  They could actually say "I love you" to one another because they have not said to each other yet.   They could show a father side of Michael with Eve.  And they could have him increase his strength and abilities and have him take his place in this new world.  He could fight and kill another villian.  Because he  has fought a few villians but has only killed one villian (William). 

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: Has I was saying they could so much with Michael.  They could devolope his relationship with Selene even more now that they have a child together.  They could actually say "I love you" to one another because they have not said to each other yet.   They could show a father side of Michael with Eve.  And they could have him increase his strength and abilities and have him take his place in this new world.  He could fight and kill another villian.  Because he  has fought a few villians but has only killed one villian (William). 

      True

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    • One thing Selene said at the end of the movie was that she said "I know longer fear death.  Because I have experinced it before."  But all she did was stabbed and was shot a few times.  But Michael is the one who really knows death becaue he was killed twice first being impaled through the heart and his hand stabbed.  Second time being strung upside down and his throat slit and his blood pouring out.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: One thing Selene said at the end of the movie was that she said "I know longer fear death.  Because I have experinced it before."  But all she did was stabbed and was shot a few times.  But Michael is the one who really knows death becaue he was killed twice first being impaled through the heart and his hand stabbed.  Second time being strung upside down and his throat slit and his blood pouring out.

      Yeah and that invalidates many of her claims.

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    • Selene has made a fews claims in each of the movies.  In the first she claimed that Lucian was alive and he was working with Kraven and the Lycans were following Michael.  Which turned out to be true.  In the second movie she claimed that Marcus was trying to get the pendent for something horrible.  Whivch turned out to be true as well.  But in the fourth movie made a few claims.  First being she thought Michael was dead which was wrong. The second one was claiming that Eve is the powerful immortal ever which is debatable with Michael.  Claimed that Eve is key to the war.  And the fith movie she claimed that she knows death.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: Selene has made a fews claims in each of the movies.  In the first she claimed that Lucian was alive and he was working with Kraven and the Lycans were following Michael.  Which turned out to be true.  In the second movie she claimed that Marcus was trying to get the pendent for something horrible.  Whivch turned out to be true as well.  But in the fourth movie made a few claims.  First being she thought Michael was dead which was wrong. The second one was claiming that Eve is the powerful immortal ever which is debatable with Michael.  Claimed that Eve is key to the war.  And the fith movie she claimed that she knows death.

      the claims she made in the first two were accurate, up until she seemed to think Alexander was the only one stronger. but the claims she made in the 4th and 5th films aren't true, as far as I'm concerned

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    • Plus if Alexander was the only one stronger than Marcus at the time.  Then how come Michael was able overpower Marcus and give him a lots of hits for most of their fight then?

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: Plus if Alexander was the only one stronger than Marcus at the time.  Then how come Michael was able overpower Marcus and give him a lots of hits for most of their fight then?

      I agree though I could also counter that Selene thought Michael was dead.

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    • That is true Selene must have just thought that Alexander could have been the only one to stop him since Marcus "killed" Michael.

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    • 101.162.33.120 wrote: That is true Selene must have just thought that Alexander could have been the only one to stop him since Marcus "killed" Michael.

      And Michael could have powers that Eve doesn't

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    • That is true.

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    • All we need is a movie with the 2 of them fighting together.  Then we can decide once and for all who truly is stronger.  But at this point I doubt that will happen.

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    • Unfortunately even if we get that we won't be able to agree on who is stronger. We can agree on some things but not that.

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    • Yeah just for arguments sake lets just say we both agree that Eve is the strongest. But here is the twist what if in the next movie Eve is the strongest but then Michael goes through something that no one has done before and he as an ability that Eve and the rest of the immortals do not have that puts him over them. Then we can both agree that Michael Corvin is the most powerful being in the series.

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    • 203.104.11.84 wrote: Yeah just for arguments sake lets just say we both agree that Eve is the strongest. But here is the twist what if in the next movie Eve is the strongest but then Michael goes through something that no one has done before and he as an ability that Eve and the rest of the immortals do not have that puts him over them. Then we can both agree that Michael Corvin is the most powerful being in the series.

      I concur

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    • I want him to fight both Semira and a Super Lycan at once.  That will really show how strong and powerful he really is.

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    • 203.104.11.84 wrote: I want him to fight both Semira and a Super Lycan at once.  That will really show how strong and powerful he really is.

      If he wins.

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    • To me I think Semira would be the first one to go because she was really a know it all kind of character and expects everything to go her way.  But that does not mean she won't give Michael a good fight.  Then it would be just between Michael and the Uber Lycan.  With the Uber Lycan I think they should do something different like instead of a male one I think they should have a female Uber Lycan.  Because we have already seen three males (Quint Lane,Jacob Lane and Marius).  What do think of the idea of having female Uber Lycan?  

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    • 203.104.11.75 wrote: To me I think Semira would be the first one to go because she was really a know it all kind of character and expects everything to go her way.  But that does not mean she won't give Michael a good fight.  Then it would be just between Michael and the Uber Lycan.  With the Uber Lycan I think they should do something different like instead of a male one I think they should have a female Uber Lycan.  Because we have already seen three males (Quint Lane,Jacob Lane and Marius).  What do think of the idea of having female Uber Lycan?  

      A female would be interesting

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    • Yeah because some people complain that were not barely any female Lycans in the other movies.  That is why they had some of minor Lycans females and they pleased but I think they would a bit more pleased with a female Lycan as the main Villian.

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    • 203.104.11.84 wrote: Yeah because some people complain that were not barely any female Lycans in the other movies.  That is why they had some of minor Lycans females and they pleased but I think they would a bit more pleased with a female Lycan as the main Villian.

      I bet

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    • To me it would be really satisfying to see Michael fight and kill Semira.  Because if Semira thought that David and Selene were tough, strong, special and unique she has not seen shit yet.

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    • 203.104.11.84 wrote: To me it would be really satisfying to see Michael fight and kill Semira.  Because if Semira thought that David and Selene were tough, strong, special and unique she has not seen shit yet.

      I concur but Semira would be the likely winner

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    • Why do you think that?

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    • 203.104.11.21 wrote: Why do you think that?

      She has more experience than him. everytime Michael faced someone who was an expert combatant he lost.

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    • Yeah but Michael has gotten alot stronger since he fought Victor and has a bit more experience with his powers.  That plus if he get's a new ability or his size is increased Michael will be able get his hands on her head like he did with William and no amount of experience is going to save Semira.

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    • 203.104.11.21 wrote: Yeah but Michael has gotten alot stronger since he fought Victor and has a bit more experience with his powers.  That plus if he get's a new ability or his size is increased Michael will be able get his hands on her head like he did with William and no amount of experience is going to save Semira.

      True but only if he got his hands on her.

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    • To me it makes sense for Semira to be the main villian of the next movie and for Michael to be the main hero.  Because I imagine she would still want revenge on Selene for killing Victor.  From what I have read is that he was the person she cared for the most.  And it also makes sense for her to try to take down Michael.  Because it is stated that Michael is the person that Selene cares for and loves the most in the world and one of the few people she really trusts.

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    • 58.165.33.241 wrote: To me it makes sense for Semira to be the main villian of the next movie and for Michael to be the main hero.  Because I imagine she would still want revenge on Selene for killing Victor.  From what I have read is that he was the person she cared for the most.  And it also makes sense for her to try to take down Michael.  Because it is stated that Michael is the person that Selene cares for and loves the most in the world and one of the few people she really trusts.

      I know I'd like that but I doubt that will happen

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    • In my opinion Semira and Marius were okay villians but they were not as good as Victor, Marcus and William.

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    • 203.104.11.24 wrote: In my opinion Semira and Marius were okay villians but they were not as good as Victor, Marcus and William.

      I agree.

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    • Same goes for David.  He is a good hero and male lead but he will never be as good as Michael Corvin and Lucian.

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    • 203.104.11.24 wrote: Same goes for David.  He is a good hero and male lead but he will never be as good as Michael Corvin and Lucian.

      I agree again

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    • To me it would be cool to see Michael and David interact with each other because they have so many things incomman.  They are both from a royal bloodline, they are both close to Selene, they both came back from the dead and the ladies in the audience love them.

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    • 203.104.11.77 wrote: To me it would be cool to see Michael and David interact with each other because they have so many things incomman.  They are both from a royal bloodline, they are both close to Selene, they both came back from the dead and the ladies in the audience love them.

      Too true but then again a lot of people nowadays have some royal blood in them. Its not very much but its there

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    • True.  But their bloodlines are the most speaical of the immortals.  Michael is modern decendant of the Corvinus Clan the family that created both races (Alexander, Marcus and William).  David is the son of one of the most powerful and original Vampire Elders (Amelia). 

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    • 203.104.11.77 wrote: True.  But their bloodlines are the most speaical of the immortals.  Michael is modern decendant of the Corvinus Clan the family that created both races (Alexander, Marcus and William).  David is the son of one of the most powerful and original Vampire Elders (Amelia). 

      True enough

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    • Also if you listen carefully at the begining of the movie David asks Selene "Any word with Michael?".  It shows that David cares about Michael without meeting him because he knows that he is very important to Selene and Eve.  Just like how Selene and Eve are important to David.  David even goes far enough to call Selene his family.

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    • 203.104.11.75 wrote: Also if you listen carefully at the begining of the movie David asks Selene "Any word with Michael?".  It shows that David cares about Michael without meeting him because he knows that he is very important to Selene and Eve.  Just like how Selene and Eve are important to David.  David even goes far enough to call Selene his family.

      Indeed

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    • What are your thoughts on David probaly being Michael Corvin's permanant replacement?  And what do you think him being with Selene?

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    • 203.104.11.26 wrote: What are your thoughts on David probaly being Michael Corvin's permanant replacement?  And what do you think him being with Selene?

      Both ideas of garbage

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    • Hah! Thank you my friend.  No one can replace Michael's character and power.  Not even Eve.  And if David should end up with anyone it should be that other female elder Lena.  Because for some reason I feel tenstion between them.

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    • I know this might sound silly but since Michael "died" twice but do you think he could have met Selene's father and the rest of her family?

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    • 203.104.11.78 wrote: I know this might sound silly but since Michael "died" twice but do you think he could have met Selene's father and the rest of her family?

      No.

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    • Fair enough.

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    • To me that is what the next movie should be about.  Michael Corvin making his big return to the franchise we have been waiting for since Underworld: Evolution for 11 years.  Him trying to figure out what his place is in this new world and trying to evolve into something more powerful then we have ever seen before in the franchise.   More powerful than Selene and way more powerful even then Eve.  And him reuniting with Selene and finally meeting his daughter.

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    • Because I think giving Michael Corvin his own movie would work very well and it would give us a chance to see our favourite charater at full power and reach his potential they built up in the first two movies.

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    • I agree.

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    • How do you think Cassius and Varga will think if Michael Corvin who is the first Hybrid does return and lives with them and their new elder Selene?

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    • 203.104.11.79 wrote: How do you think Cassius and Varga will think if Michael Corvin who is the first Hybrid does return and lives with them and their new elder Selene?

      If they don't like it they will have to deal with it

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    • Yeah because I imagine Selene being an elder now she will have her own bed chamber and quarters.   When one of the vampires ask "Where will he be staying in the coven?" the most obvious thing is Selene is going to say "In my quarters" .  Then they are going to get very weary with their elder sharing her bed quarters with a Lycan-Vampire Hybrid.

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    • 58.165.33.241 wrote: Yeah because I imagine Selene being an elder now she will have her own bed chamber and quarters.   When one of the vampires ask "Where will he be staying in the coven?" the most obvious thing is Selene is going to say "In my quarters" .  Then they are going to get very weary with their elder sharing her bed quarters with a Lycan-Vampire Hybrid.

      But they will have to accept it.

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    • She is an elder and she can do whatever she wishes with Michael.  Because if the coven trusts Selene as their elder then are going to have to trust Michael.  Because she trusts him with her life.  And so they will have to trust him with their lives as well.

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    • 58.165.33.241 wrote: She is an elder and she can do whatever she wishes with Michael.  Because if the coven trusts Selene as their elder then are going to have to trust Michael.  Because she trusts him with her life.  And so they will have to trust him with their lives as well.

      She can do what she likes as long as its reasonable. And having Michael around is reasonable.

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    • Plus David seems to respect Michael without meeting him. So he will not have a problem with it. Lena will be easy to convince because she can be convinced easily by Selene and also Lena can read souls and learn much about them. So if she looks through Michael she will see that he has a good soul, a good man and a man that can be trusted. Plus he is the father of Eve and Eve is now confirmed as a rightful heir to the Vampire Nation.

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    • 58.165.33.241 wrote: Plus David seems to respect Michael without meeting him. So he will not have a problem with it. Lena will be easy to convince because she can be convinced easily by Selene and also Lena can read souls and learn much about them. So if she looks through Michael she will see that he has a good soul, a good man and a man that can be trusted. Plus he is the father of Eve and Eve is now confirmed as a rightful heir to the Vampire Nation.

      Eve hasn't been confirmed as the rightful heir.

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    • Yes she actually has.  Even if she was not it is still pretty obvious that she is a rightful heir.  Because her mother was the first chosen and the most powerful of the three new Vampire Elders.

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    • 58.165.33.241 wrote: Yes she actually has.  Even if she was not it is still pretty obvious that she is a rightful heir.  Because her mother was the first chosen and the most powerful of the three new Vampire Elders.

      She hasn't been confirmed, while its true she is Selene's daughter we don't yet know if she is an heir

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    • Go and read on the Underworld Franchise Wikipedia page and go down to the character section and when you get to Eve read at the bottom of the paragraph.

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    • 58.165.33.241 wrote: Go and read on the Underworld Franchise Wikipedia page and go down to the character section and when you get to Eve read at the bottom of the paragraph.

      I'm afraid you'll need much better sources than Wikipedia to convince me its official. She probably is the heir but I think its not wise to make such a claim.

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    • Yeah your probably right.  But I still think she is Selene's heir now she is an Elder.

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    • I would just like to a scene with both Michael and Eve in both of their hybrid forms fighting together.

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    • I know your favourite good guy is Michael Corvin. But who is your favourite bad guy?

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    • 203.104.11.78 wrote: I know your favourite good guy is Michael Corvin. But who is your favourite bad guy?

      Marcus

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    • Good choice.  In my opion Marcus Corvinus is the most powerful villian in the franchise.  But for me my favourite villian is his twin brother William Corvinus.

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    • Do you agree that Marcus and William are the most powerful villians in the Franchise?

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote: Do you agree that Marcus and William are the most powerful villians in the Franchise?

      I do. If William were to be hybridized

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    • Alright who do you think is the least powerful of the good guys and the bad guys?

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    • 203.104.11.21 wrote: Alright who do you think is the least powerful of the good guys and the bad guys?

      Kraven and the humans are the weakest

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    • For me the weakest Villian is Kraven too.  The least powerful of the good guys was Detective Sebastian.

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    • To me it would be cool to see Michael Corvin meet Detective Sebastian and they work together to find Selene.  That would interesting.

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    • The studio calls Kate Beckinsale and her character Selene the staple of the franchise and that's all they need.   But what they cannot get through their heads is that since Scott Speedman and his character Michael Corvin left the franchise the fans are not as responsive as they use to be.  Because it was not just Selene that made the series good.  It was also her relationship with Michael and them fighting both the Lycans and the Vampires.  To be accepted and that is what we were hoping for is that she finnaly finds Michael and that she has her family and they actually rise to the top of the Vampires and the Lycans.

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    • 203.104.11.26 wrote: The studio calls Kate Beckinsale and her character Selene the staple of the franchise and that's all they need.   But what they cannot get through their heads is that since Scott Speedman and his character Michael Corvin left the franchise the fans are not as responsive as they use to be.  Because it was not just Selene that made the series good.  It was also her relationship with Michael and them fighting both the Lycans and the Vampires.  To be accepted and that is what we were hoping for is that she finnaly finds Michael and that she has her family and they actually rise to the top of the Vampires and the Lycans.

      We might believe that but not all the fans do

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    • For some reason some people think that Selene is stronger and more powerful than Michael Corvin.  What are your thoughts on the people that say this?

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

      203.104.11.21 wrote: Alright who do you think is the least powerful of the good guys and the bad guys?

      Kraven and the humans are the weakest

      It's a shame Viktor believed his lie in killing Lucian....

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      203.104.11.21 wrote: Alright who do you think is the least powerful of the good guys and the bad guys?

      Kraven and the humans are the weakest

      It's a shame Viktor believed his lie in killing Lucian....

      True

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    • 58.165.33.241 wrote: For some reason some people think that Selene is stronger and more powerful than Michael Corvin.  What are your thoughts on the people that say this?

      I say Qui Bono, Qui Bono, where is the evidence.

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    • Some people just think she is because she is the main character.

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    • 203.104.11.77 wrote: Some people just think she is because she is the main character.

      That's probably true as well

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      203.104.11.21 wrote: Alright who do you think is the least powerful of the good guys and the bad guys?

      Kraven and the humans are the weakest
      It's a shame Viktor believed his lie in killing Lucian....
      True

      Personally if I was there, I would have wanted to see Lucian's head, not just a piece of his skin

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      203.104.11.21 wrote: Alright who do you think is the least powerful of the good guys and the bad guys?

      Kraven and the humans are the weakest
      It's a shame Viktor believed his lie in killing Lucian....
      True

      Personally if I was there, I would have wanted to see Lucian's head, not just a piece of his skin

      Good point

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    • Yeah if Victor was smart enough he would have asked for the head or the body.  But I guess he probably thought the skin was good enough because he probably thought that you can't get his skin like that if he was alive. 

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    • 203.104.11.79 wrote: Yeah if Victor was smart enough he would have asked for the head or the body.  But I guess he probably thought the skin was good enough because he probably thought that you can't get his skin like that if he was alive. 

      True

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    • 203.104.11.79 wrote:
      Yeah if Victor was smart enough he would have asked for the head or the body.  But I guess he probably thought the skin was good enough because he probably thought that you can't get his skin like that if he was alive. 

      Cutting off lycan skin happens all the time, that does not PROVE anything

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    • What do you mean "happens all the time"?  That was the only time I saw a Lycan get its skin taken off in the franchise.  The rest of them were either shot and stabbed at or get one of their body parts ripped off.

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    • What do you mean "happens all the time"?  That was the only time I saw a Lycan get its skin taken off in the franchise.  The rest of them were either shot and stabbed at or get one of their body parts ripped off. 

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    • Sorry if it is there twice a double clicked on it by mistake.

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    • 203.104.11.76 wrote:
      What do you mean "happens all the time"?  That was the only time I saw a Lycan get its skin taken off in the franchise.  The rest of them were either shot and stabbed at or get one of their body parts ripped off.

      You don't have to actually see it on screen. After so many years of war with the vampires, that happening should be automatically assumed

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      203.104.11.76 wrote:
      What do you mean "happens all the time"?  That was the only time I saw a Lycan get its skin taken off in the franchise.  The rest of them were either shot and stabbed at or get one of their body parts ripped off.

      You don't have to actually see it on screen. After so many years of war with the vampires, that happening should be automatically assumed

      probably

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    • It's plain war, these things happen

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    • Psi-ragnarok if Semria and Michael Corvin did survive then what would be your opinion if they were brought back as the main villian and the main hero?  And how do you think their fight would go down?

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    • Michael is a bit harder to figure out because of the lack of info we got regarding what happened to him at Antigen and then later in Blood Wars, so I'll talk about Semira.

      If Semira survived, the Q here is what benefits OTHER than just immunity to sunlight did she gain from Selene's blood. Because David ordered her arrested to stand trial by the council and then Marius's army attacked the coven. Therefore, if she's still alive, then she's probably imprisoned by the vampires in the coven right now. But to bring her back as a main villain might not be so easy.

      Remember, although Cassius and the others accepted Selene as an Elder, they still have the "racial purity" concept that Viktor instilled in them. It's up to Selene and David to explain what REALLY happened, and what Viktor REALLY did (which obviously cannot happen overnight). Under that logic, if Semira was to escape, she'd be practically bereft of any vampire supporters because they'll see her as a hybrid, which would make her "tainted" and therefore unworthy to be a true vampire.

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote: Michael is a bit harder to figure out because of the lack of info we got regarding what happened to him at Antigen and then later in Blood Wars, so I'll talk about Semira.

      If Semira survived, the Q here is what benefits OTHER than just immunity to sunlight did she gain from Selene's blood. Because David ordered her arrested to stand trial by the council and then Marius's army attacked the coven. Therefore, if she's still alive, then she's probably imprisoned by the vampires in the coven right now. But to bring her back as a main villain might not be so easy.

      Remember, although Cassius and the others accepted Selene as an Elder, they still have the "racial purity" concept that Viktor instilled in them. It's up to Selene and David to explain what REALLY happened, and what Viktor REALLY did (which obviously cannot happen overnight). Under that logic, if Semira was to escape, she'd be practically bereft of any vampire supporters because they'll see her as a hybrid, which would make her "tainted" and therefore unworthy to be a true vampire.

      But Selene and David are hybrids too.

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    • And that is why I'm saying that Selene and David have to explain what really happened, and get rid of this racial purity concept

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote: And that is why I'm saying that Selene and David have to explain what really happened, and get rid of this racial purity concept

      Good point

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    • And you have to keep in mind that this concept isn't something you can get rid of that easily. All you have to do is look at our own history. The Civil Rights Movement ended almost 50 years ago, but the KKK is still alive today

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