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  • Does anyone else think its a bummer that Scott Speedman isn't returning for the fifth movie?

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    • I don’t really care about him leaving, but what happened to Eve? She isn’t listed as being in the cast. You can’t just write Selene’s daughter out of the script.

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    • What about Eve?

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    • She’s apparently not in the upcoming movie. I suddenly think that this film isn’t going to be very good...

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    • Awakening was a terrible movie........

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    • What was wrong with it? Other than Michael never showing up. I guess I didn’t like Selene reaching into David’s heart and restarting it. That’s already been done in the Matrix.

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    • I hated the purges, and the tri blood hybrid idea

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    • Yellowantphil wrote:
      What was wrong with it? Other than Michael never showing up. I guess I didn’t like Selene reaching into David’s heart and restarting it. That’s already been done in the Matrix.

      Thank you for saying it! I was not a fan of Selene restarting his heart, nor do I understand how she did it. Was her blood exposed?

      AND I wish Scott Speedman reprised his role as Michale instead of casting some lookalike. And YES! Why is Eve not listed in the cast for Blood Wars? I can't find any indication that she'll be in the next movie. 

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    • Hulk10 wrote:
      I hated the purges, and the tri blood hybrid idea

      I didn't like the purges either.

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    • Yeah, there are those that view the purges favorably.

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    • Remiruye wrote:

      Yellowantphil wrote:
      What was wrong with it? Other than Michael never showing up. I guess I didn’t like Selene reaching into David’s heart and restarting it. That’s already been done in the Matrix.

      Thank you for saying it! I was not a fan of Selene restarting his heart, nor do I understand how she did it. Was her blood exposed?

      The wiki article for David says that Selene put her own hybrid blood directly into his heart, which revived him. She must have bit her wrist first to make her blood mix with his. I can’t find my DVD at the moment, so I can’t check.

      I guess it almost makes sense, but I wish they had done that scene differently.

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    • Yellowantphil wrote:

      Remiruye wrote:

      Yellowantphil wrote:
      What was wrong with it? Other than Michael never showing up. I guess I didn’t like Selene reaching into David’s heart and restarting it. That’s already been done in the Matrix.
      Thank you for saying it! I was not a fan of Selene restarting his heart, nor do I understand how she did it. Was her blood exposed?

      The wiki article for David says that Selene put her own hybrid blood directly into his heart, which revived him. She must have bit her wrist first to make her blood mix with his. I can’t find my DVD at the moment, so I can’t check.

      I guess it almost makes sense, but I wish they had done that scene differently.

      I have the movie on BluRay, but I haven't had the chance to rewatch it, since I've only seen the movie once in theaters and then once when I received the disc. I'm currently trying to rewatch the movies in order of the timeline and I'm currently on Rise of the Lycans. Once I rewatch Awakening, I'll post what I see.

      Though, if it's like how I remember, I wont see any wound or cut on her hand. 

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    • Remiruye wrote:

      I have the movie on BluRay, but I haven't had the chance to rewatch it, since I've only seen the movie once in theaters and then once when I received the disc. I'm currently trying to rewatch the movies in order of the timeline and I'm currently on Rise of the Lycans. Once I rewatch Awakening, I'll post what I see.

      Speaking of watching in order of the timeline, I tried to figure out how to watch the films in chronological order and wrote this (the “Chronological order” section). I think it’s accurate, but I’m no expert. I haven’t watched the films in that order yet.

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    • Yellowantphil wrote:

      Speaking of watching in order of the timeline, I tried to figure out how to watch the films in chronological order and wrote this (the “Chronological order” section). I think it’s accurate, but I’m no expert. I haven’t watched the films in that order yet.

      Very well written, I will definitely give this order a try!

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    • I'm upset that Selene won't be the main character in the sixth film as well.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:
      I'm upset that Selene won't be the main character in the sixth film as well.

      Really? Where was that posted? Will David be in the lead role?

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    • It wasn't. I don't think. But I suspect that she won't be the main character in the sixth film.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:
      It wasn't. I don't think. But I suspect that she won't be the main character in the sixth film.

      Ahh, you're probably right. We'll see how the movie is when it comes out in October.

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    • Uh you mean the 5th one. The sixth one has no release date yet.

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    • One reason why I don't like that Selene won't be the main character in Blood Wars is that ruins the idea that Underworld is one of the few movie series that has a consistent female lead character.

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    • But the other reason is that I hate change.

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    • Remiruye wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:
      It wasn't. I don't think. But I suspect that she won't be the main character in the sixth film.

      Ahh, you're probably right. We'll see how the movie is when it comes out in October.

      January now, according to IMDb. :-/

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    • Yeah

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    • Yellowantphil wrote:

      January now, according to IMDb. :-/

      January?! What the heck! Filming for this movie finished in December of last year! You'd think they'd be done.

      But this may be to release the movie in January like the all the other movies (aside from Underworld).

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    • Awakening was f***ing awesome. I liked that they brought in a new character (Eve) and teased at Michael being dead then alive but..where TF is Scott Speedman?? You cant just dice out a main character like that for no reason! I just know they are going to downplay Michael's role in the new movie with this new actor, but I'll still be seeing it the day it comes out!!!

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    • I won't.

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    • I'm watching Awakening at the moment, before I see Blood Wars. Selene does cut her hand with a sword before restarting David's heart. Just thought I'd clear that up.

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    • Jee wiz.. after all that watching and waiting to see what will happen when a vampire's blood mixes with a werewolfs blood...smh.  You kill him.  The most upsetting thing is missing the potential ceilings  of Michaels powers.  Thats what I was waiting to see, combined with a down a$$ vampire chic that had his back.. Then you kill him.  Underworld to me isnt good without him.  Im sorry.  Im sure my $14 dollars isnt enough to make anyone really re-shape the franchise.  But, never the less, Im done with underworld.  Ill just watch 1 when I want to see a kick a$$ hybrid with potential.  Goodbye underworld.  And thanks for being alil out of touch with alot of people.

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    • ...ps.  And I thought Michaels blood was unique? Now anyone can turn into a hybrid seems like.

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    • 72.81.222.7 wrote: Jee wiz.. after all that watching and waiting to see what will happen when a vampire's blood mixes with a werewolfs blood...smh.  You kill him.  The most upsetting thing is missing the potential ceilings  of Michaels powers.  Thats what I was waiting to see, combined with a down a$$ vampire chic that had his back.. Then you kill him.  Underworld to me isnt good without him.  Im sorry.  Im sure my $14 dollars isnt enough to make anyone really re-shape the franchise.  But, never the less, Im done with underworld.  Ill just watch 1 when I want to see a kick a$$ hybrid with potential.  Goodbye underworld.  And thanks for being alil out of touch with alot of people.

      I agree with you on that one. Plus remember that Michael should have lost all his blood when he was impaled and yet he survived.

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    • 72.81.222.7 wrote: ...ps.  And I thought Michaels blood was unique? Now anyone can turn into a hybrid seems like.

      His blood is unique, its just that now lots of immortals have access to the original Corvinus strain.

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    • How could you kill Michael?!?! He didnt even get a chance to live!!?! What a joke... two thumbs down

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    • Bring Michael Corvin back. He has both bloodlines and definitely stronger than both. Give him a proper ending cause the one given to him in blood wars was quite a bummer and low for the guy.

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    • IMO one of the best Vampire/Werewolf movies.

      But killing off Michael is so stupid! I didn't even watch Blood Wars, just read about it.  

      One thing I hate is that Michael was "unique" then in Awakening, the purge was stupid and then slowly peopl started having access to the Corvinus strain.  Then Blood Wars WTH! Everyone has access to it, so in order for Selene to be better she needs something else.  Its like watching a movie with a bunch of Superman when everyone is Superman then no one is Superman!  Its like a dime a dozen now! 

      I still like the idea of Michael and Eve as a Hybrid. 

      The problem with the movie is that they try so hard to make it about a "Female" lead.  Nothing wrong with a strong female lead but the fact is that there was never a proper ending type for Michael, it’s just suddenly he disappeared.  If he was just a normal human being then I have no issues them killing him off since he’d be useless.  But this was the main theme of the movie “Hybrid” started with Lucian’s unborn baby.

      I don't care of Scott Speedman didn't want to be in the movie again they can always replace him.

      But I hope there is another movie perhaps this time Michael's resurection.  He died once already why not do it again.  They can find some unique way to resurect him, he's the only "pure and direct descendant" of the Corvinus, well except Eve.   But again everyone has the Corvinus strain! 

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      I'm still pissed off about them killing off Michael.. i still enjoyed it and will always be a fan, and i appreciate that all the 5 films have at least attempted decent continuity with one another in some way. But  I found Michael and Selene's chemistry really worked and was totally believable, and Eve wasn't in the fifth one anyway! Without Selene it would have suffered even more, but I can not think of a single fan who wouldn't have wanted the Selene/Michael/Eve trinity in an underworld film. They could have brought back Michael since eve was in hiding, or at least have him for 10 minutes here and there and show him being killed if they wanted him dead.. We deserved that as loyal fans.. i didn't get to feel anything in realtime with Michael's death, and they have dealt with the entire Michael situation very poorly since awakening. Underworld evolutiojn was the best (IMO), and I guess it always will be.

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    • 221.121.145.42 wrote:

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      I'm still pissed off about them killing off Michael.. i still enjoyed it and will always be a fan, and i appreciate that all the 5 films have at least attempted decent continuity with one another in some way. But  I found Michael and Selene's chemistry really worked and was totally believable, and Eve wasn't in the fifth one anyway! Without Selene it would have suffered even more, but I can not think of a single fan who wouldn't have wanted the Selene/Michael/Eve trinity in an underworld film. They could have brought back Michael since eve was in hiding, or at least have him for 10 minutes here and there and show him being killed if they wanted him dead.. We deserved that as loyal fans.. i didn't get to feel anything in realtime with Michael's death, and they have dealt with the entire Michael situation very poorly since awakening. Underworld evolutiojn was the best (IMO), and I guess it always will be.

      I agree.

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    • 221.121.145.42 wrote:
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      I'm still pissed off about them killing off Michael.. i still enjoyed it and will always be a fan, and i appreciate that all the 5 films have at least attempted decent continuity with one another in some way. But  I found Michael and Selene's chemistry really worked and was totally believable, and Eve wasn't in the fifth one anyway! Without Selene it would have suffered even more, but I can not think of a single fan who wouldn't have wanted the Selene/Michael/Eve trinity in an underworld film. They could have brought back Michael since eve was in hiding, or at least have him for 10 minutes here and there and show him being killed if they wanted him dead.. We deserved that as loyal fans.. i didn't get to feel anything in realtime with Michael's death, and they have dealt with the entire Michael situation very poorly since awakening. Underworld evolutiojn was the best (IMO), and I guess it always will be.

      For me too! That's actually a nice title for the 6th movie. Underworld: Trinity

      I sitll hope that Michael isn't dead, even though if Scott Speedman doesn't want to be there anymore.

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    • Scott speedman needs to come back for the next underworld... He is the father he can't be dead just like that... Without hem being back in the films i probably won't watch any more

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    • Whoever plays the role of Michael Corvin... I dont really care but he needs to come back

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    • I totally agree! at the end of the day if Speedman doesn't want too, there are plenty of people would want too play his role.

      He is the fulcrum of the whole story from the beginning. Started with HIS blood then everything went downhill.

      It would be really nice to make his role more meaningful!

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    • Yeah I don't care who plays Michael or Selene.

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    • while I enjoy EVERY underworld movie, and I wait impatiently for the next in the series; I can not forget Michael (Scott Speedman). For me his romance with Selene only Heightened my experience with the movie...Just as this movie is Gothic and set in a Darkly Romantic setting, A lot of us are, as fans intrigued by this forbidden romance..I will continue to love the Underworld Series, But I will also continue to hope that Michael will once again make an appearance and be reunited with Selene and Eve  

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    • 105.104.131.99 wrote:
      while I enjoy EVERY underworld movie, and I wait impatiently for the next in the series; I can not forget Michael (Scott Speedman). For me his romance with Selene only Heightened my experience with the movie...Just as this movie is Gothic and set in a Darkly Romantic setting, A lot of us are, as fans intrigued by this forbidden romance..I will continue to love the Underworld Series, But I will also continue to hope that Michael will once again make an appearance and be reunited with Selene and Eve

      I'm not convinced of that. Speedman made it prior to the events of Awakening that he wouldn't be returning in the 4th film, despite the fact most of us expected him to. After all, the ending of the 1st film clearly set up a sequel where he'd return, which was exactly what happened in Evolution. The ending of Evolution did the same thing, so everyone expected the same thing. People let it go because Rise of the Lycans was a prequel, even though it wasn't really necessary (lorewise anyway), but the moment Awakening was announced people wanted to see him again. I guess some fans accepted his disappearance because Michael was captured and imprisoned by Antigen for all those years, but since he was freed at the end of the film, people expected to see him again in Blood Wars. That he didn't was a disappointment, made worse still that Michael never even realized he has a daughter.

      I'll give the 6th film another shot for him, but if they leave the questioning hanging again of if he'll ever return....

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      I'm not convinced of that. Speedman made it prior to the events of Awakening that he wouldn't be returning in the 4th film, despite the fact most of us expected him to.

      Not his choice which can't be said enough. People constantly blame him for 'not wanting to return' when it's in fact Len's lack of writing ability. He wrote Michael out of Awakening.

      IMO the switch from Michael to Eve happened because people didn't know how much longer Kate would be willing to play Selene and they were looking for another female lead connected to Selene. But since Eve gets the Michael treatment it seems the other reason is the added difficulty of being able to handle and write their kind of hybrid without it overshadowing Selene.

      For me that's like the least reason why I want Michael back. The romance itself also isn't a reason. For me Selene is just much more likeable and complex when Michael is around. That's what fascinated me in the first movie, Michael brough out the woman in Selene. He was also the catalyst for her questioning the status quo.

      I don't have that same attachment to Selene/Eve. You'd think with Len writing Michael out of Awakening to focus on the mother/daughter thing, that this woud actually be a focus. But it wasn't. Selene spends more time with David than her own daughter. And then by BW Eve is suddenly gone and we get some half-assed explanation without any context. So what was the freaking point of writing Michael out and bringing in Eve?

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    • Bringing in Eve was necessary to bring in a higher power source. After the events of Evolution, many had wondered what would it take to beat Selene. Eve provided the answer to that Q.

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote: Bringing in Eve was necessary to bring in a higher power source. After the events of Evolution, many had wondered what would it take to beat Selene. Eve provided the answer to that Q.

      I think Michael had the power to overpower Selene, but then again so did Marcus.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Bringing in Eve was necessary to bring in a higher power source. After the events of Evolution, many had wondered what would it take to beat Selene. Eve provided the answer to that Q.

      I think Michael had the power to overpower Selene, but then again so did Marcus.

      It's hard to say for Marcus. Look at it this way, if there was no helicopter blade, would the battle have ended differently?

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Bringing in Eve was necessary to bring in a higher power source. After the events of Evolution, many had wondered what would it take to beat Selene. Eve provided the answer to that Q.

      I think Michael had the power to overpower Selene, but then again so did Marcus.

      It's hard to say for Marcus. Look at it this way, if there was no helicopter blade, would the battle have ended differently?

      Probably yes.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Bringing in Eve was necessary to bring in a higher power source. After the events of Evolution, many had wondered what would it take to beat Selene. Eve provided the answer to that Q.

      I think Michael had the power to overpower Selene, but then again so did Marcus.
      It's hard to say for Marcus. Look at it this way, if there was no helicopter blade, would the battle have ended differently?
      Probably yes.

      I guess the main reason here is because I never watched Awakening, so I don't know if there's limits to Selene's new power after getting Alexander's blood.

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Bringing in Eve was necessary to bring in a higher power source. After the events of Evolution, many had wondered what would it take to beat Selene. Eve provided the answer to that Q.

      I think Michael had the power to overpower Selene, but then again so did Marcus.
      It's hard to say for Marcus. Look at it this way, if there was no helicopter blade, would the battle have ended differently?
      Probably yes.

      I guess the main reason here is because I never watched Awakening, so I don't know if there's limits to Selene's new power after getting Alexander's blood.

      Of course there are limits to Selene's powers.

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:
      Bringing in Eve was necessary to bring in a higher power source. After the events of Evolution, many had wondered what would it take to beat Selene. Eve provided the answer to that Q.

      Except Eve is not. First of all Eve is young so it would probably take a few decades for her to reach her potential. Second, Eve is on Selene's side not on the enemy's. So her function isn't to show what could beat Selene. Mainly Eve is only there as an emotional catalyst and nothing more, even if that's with her totally absent.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

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      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Bringing in Eve was necessary to bring in a higher power source. After the events of Evolution, many had wondered what would it take to beat Selene. Eve provided the answer to that Q.

      I think Michael had the power to overpower Selene, but then again so did Marcus.
      It's hard to say for Marcus. Look at it this way, if there was no helicopter blade, would the battle have ended differently?
      Probably yes.
      I guess the main reason here is because I never watched Awakening, so I don't know if there's limits to Selene's new power after getting Alexander's blood.
      Of course there are limits to Selene's powers.

      How much of this was demonstrated in Awakening?

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

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      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Bringing in Eve was necessary to bring in a higher power source. After the events of Evolution, many had wondered what would it take to beat Selene. Eve provided the answer to that Q.

      I think Michael had the power to overpower Selene, but then again so did Marcus.
      It's hard to say for Marcus. Look at it this way, if there was no helicopter blade, would the battle have ended differently?
      Probably yes.
      I guess the main reason here is because I never watched Awakening, so I don't know if there's limits to Selene's new power after getting Alexander's blood.
      Of course there are limits to Selene's powers.

      How much of this was demonstrated in Awakening?

      Well lets see she was no physical match for Quint Lane and was knocked out by a flash grenade.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

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      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Bringing in Eve was necessary to bring in a higher power source. After the events of Evolution, many had wondered what would it take to beat Selene. Eve provided the answer to that Q.

      I think Michael had the power to overpower Selene, but then again so did Marcus.
      It's hard to say for Marcus. Look at it this way, if there was no helicopter blade, would the battle have ended differently?
      Probably yes.
      I guess the main reason here is because I never watched Awakening, so I don't know if there's limits to Selene's new power after getting Alexander's blood.
      Of course there are limits to Selene's powers.
      How much of this was demonstrated in Awakening?
      Well lets see she was no physical match for Quint Lane and was knocked out by a flash grenade.

      That seems to imply Alexander's blood was more of a hindrance than a benefit.

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

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      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Bringing in Eve was necessary to bring in a higher power source. After the events of Evolution, many had wondered what would it take to beat Selene. Eve provided the answer to that Q.

      I think Michael had the power to overpower Selene, but then again so did Marcus.
      It's hard to say for Marcus. Look at it this way, if there was no helicopter blade, would the battle have ended differently?
      Probably yes.
      I guess the main reason here is because I never watched Awakening, so I don't know if there's limits to Selene's new power after getting Alexander's blood.
      Of course there are limits to Selene's powers.
      How much of this was demonstrated in Awakening?
      Well lets see she was no physical match for Quint Lane and was knocked out by a flash grenade.

      That seems to imply Alexander's blood was more of a hindrance than a benefit.

      Hmm I didn't think of it that way. But Michael was knocked out by a grenade launcher.

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    • Michael being knocked out that way made sense as the grenade launcher is designed to KILL. A flash grenade isn't lethal by itself....

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote: Michael being knocked out that way made sense as the grenade launcher is designed to KILL. A flash grenade isn't lethal by itself....

      Selene was knocked out by another grenade that made a big flash, I dunno what kind of grenade it was

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Michael being knocked out that way made sense as the grenade launcher is designed to KILL. A flash grenade isn't lethal by itself....

      Selene was knocked out by another grenade that made a big flash, I dunno what kind of grenade it was

      Well, on that note you can't really judge Alexander's blood, if you think about it. The whole point of taking his blood was to give Selene the fighting edge against Marcus. It was never about reaping any benefits against military weapons from humans.

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Michael being knocked out that way made sense as the grenade launcher is designed to KILL. A flash grenade isn't lethal by itself....

      Selene was knocked out by another grenade that made a big flash, I dunno what kind of grenade it was

      Well, on that note you can't really judge Alexander's blood, if you think about it. The whole point of taking his blood was to give Selene the fighting edge against Marcus. It was never about reaping any benefits against military weapons from humans.

      Yeah it never occurred to me that Alexander's blood would weaken Selene, also Quint was 11 feet tall in his lycan form

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Michael being knocked out that way made sense as the grenade launcher is designed to KILL. A flash grenade isn't lethal by itself....

      Selene was knocked out by another grenade that made a big flash, I dunno what kind of grenade it was
      Well, on that note you can't really judge Alexander's blood, if you think about it. The whole point of taking his blood was to give Selene the fighting edge against Marcus. It was never about reaping any benefits against military weapons from humans.
      Yeah it never occurred to me that Alexander's blood would weaken Selene, also Quint was 11 feet tall in his lycan form

      It's also possible this is simply the passage of time. Maybe in the short run it's meant to give Selene benefits. Technically it still did because by the time of Blood Wars she's still immune to sunlight. But in terms of fighting ability...

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

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      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Michael being knocked out that way made sense as the grenade launcher is designed to KILL. A flash grenade isn't lethal by itself....

      Selene was knocked out by another grenade that made a big flash, I dunno what kind of grenade it was
      Well, on that note you can't really judge Alexander's blood, if you think about it. The whole point of taking his blood was to give Selene the fighting edge against Marcus. It was never about reaping any benefits against military weapons from humans.
      Yeah it never occurred to me that Alexander's blood would weaken Selene, also Quint was 11 feet tall in his lycan form

      It's also possible this is simply the passage of time. Maybe in the short run it's meant to give Selene benefits. Technically it still did because by the time of Blood Wars she's still immune to sunlight. But in terms of fighting ability...

      That seems unlikely. You ought to see Quint's Lycan form its huge, Hulk like. Here is a link to Quint's transformation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1kvB3SLQS0

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    • I've seen the screenshots. I know he's like 10 to 15 feet tall or something in lycan form.

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote: I've seen the screenshots. I know he's like 10 to 15 feet tall or something in lycan form.

      He is big enough to throw a car. Though Michael probably could too.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: I've seen the screenshots. I know he's like 10 to 15 feet tall or something in lycan form.

      He is big enough to throw a car. Though Michael probably could too.

      I thought virtually all lycans would be strong enough for that.

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: I've seen the screenshots. I know he's like 10 to 15 feet tall or something in lycan form.

      He is big enough to throw a car. Though Michael probably could too.

      I thought virtually all lycans would be strong enough for that.

      Me too but its possible they aren't. Or maybe the addition of Alexander's Corvinus Strain doesn't physically empower the user much.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: I've seen the screenshots. I know he's like 10 to 15 feet tall or something in lycan form.

      He is big enough to throw a car. Though Michael probably could too.
      I thought virtually all lycans would be strong enough for that.
      Me too but its possible they aren't. Or maybe the addition of Alexander's Corvinus Strain doesn't physically empower the user much.

      Ok, for curiosity's sake, what evidence you've got to think the lycans aren't strong enough for car lifting?

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: I've seen the screenshots. I know he's like 10 to 15 feet tall or something in lycan form.

      He is big enough to throw a car. Though Michael probably could too.
      I thought virtually all lycans would be strong enough for that.
      Me too but its possible they aren't. Or maybe the addition of Alexander's Corvinus Strain doesn't physically empower the user much.

      Ok, for curiosity's sake, what evidence you've got to think the lycans aren't strong enough for car lifting?

      They have never been seen to do so.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:


      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: I've seen the screenshots. I know he's like 10 to 15 feet tall or something in lycan form.

      He is big enough to throw a car. Though Michael probably could too.
      I thought virtually all lycans would be strong enough for that.
      Me too but its possible they aren't. Or maybe the addition of Alexander's Corvinus Strain doesn't physically empower the user much.
      Ok, for curiosity's sake, what evidence you've got to think the lycans aren't strong enough for car lifting?
      They have never been seen to do so.

      But that doesn't prove they can't do it.

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:


      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: I've seen the screenshots. I know he's like 10 to 15 feet tall or something in lycan form.

      He is big enough to throw a car. Though Michael probably could too.
      I thought virtually all lycans would be strong enough for that.
      Me too but its possible they aren't. Or maybe the addition of Alexander's Corvinus Strain doesn't physically empower the user much.
      Ok, for curiosity's sake, what evidence you've got to think the lycans aren't strong enough for car lifting?
      They have never been seen to do so.

      But that doesn't prove they can't do it.

      True.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:


      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:


      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: I've seen the screenshots. I know he's like 10 to 15 feet tall or something in lycan form.

      He is big enough to throw a car. Though Michael probably could too.
      I thought virtually all lycans would be strong enough for that.
      Me too but its possible they aren't. Or maybe the addition of Alexander's Corvinus Strain doesn't physically empower the user much.
      Ok, for curiosity's sake, what evidence you've got to think the lycans aren't strong enough for car lifting?
      They have never been seen to do so.
      But that doesn't prove they can't do it.
      True.

      Given their increased strength, I just don't see the reason why they can't throw one. Now, if you're talking about a semi truck, then I can see what you're getting at because that's heavier.

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:


      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:


      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: I've seen the screenshots. I know he's like 10 to 15 feet tall or something in lycan form.

      He is big enough to throw a car. Though Michael probably could too.
      I thought virtually all lycans would be strong enough for that.
      Me too but its possible they aren't. Or maybe the addition of Alexander's Corvinus Strain doesn't physically empower the user much.
      Ok, for curiosity's sake, what evidence you've got to think the lycans aren't strong enough for car lifting?
      They have never been seen to do so.
      But that doesn't prove they can't do it.
      True.

      Given their increased strength, I just don't see the reason why they can't throw one. Now, if you're talking about a semi truck, then I can see what you're getting at because that's heavier.

      I believe that Lycans could throw cars and possibly a semi truck, but I was noting the other points of view

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    • Ok I see

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote: Ok I see

      Or even a tank. I like to think that they have that kind of power and so do Lycan and Vampire hybrids and Lycan and Corvinus Strain hybrids.

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Ok I see

      Or even a tank. I like to think that they have that kind of power and so do Lycan and Vampire hybrids and Lycan and Corvinus Strain hybrids.

      Well in terms of a tank it's a completely different matter. Even the light tanks in modern militaries we're still talking 25 to 30 tons, way more than the average car.

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Ok I see

      Or even a tank. I like to think that they have that kind of power and so do Lycan and Vampire hybrids and Lycan and Corvinus Strain hybrids.

      Well in terms of a tank it's a completely different matter. Even the light tanks in modern militaries we're still talking 25 to 30 tons, way more than the average car.

      I'm well aware that tanks are really heavy

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    • Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Ok I see

      Or even a tank. I like to think that they have that kind of power and so do Lycan and Vampire hybrids and Lycan and Corvinus Strain hybrids.
      Well in terms of a tank it's a completely different matter. Even the light tanks in modern militaries we're still talking 25 to 30 tons, way more than the average car.
      I'm well aware that tanks are really heavy

      Therefore I'm not convinced the average lycan can lift and throw one.

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    • Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote:

      Hulk10 wrote:

      Psi-ragnarok wrote: Ok I see

      Or even a tank. I like to think that they have that kind of power and so do Lycan and Vampire hybrids and Lycan and Corvinus Strain hybrids.
      Well in terms of a tank it's a completely different matter. Even the light tanks in modern militaries we're still talking 25 to 30 tons, way more than the average car.
      I'm well aware that tanks are really heavy

      Therefore I'm not convinced the average lycan can lift and throw one.

      Yeah you have good reason to be skeptical.

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    • I know, I have to see it in films first.

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